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1組目 イギリス出身、カンボジア在住の女性にCamblyで聞いてみた!
Stacy, are you from the Uk?
ステイシーはイギリス出身?
I am indeed I’m from England
イギリスのイングランドね
Do you live in England now?
今はイングランドに住んでるの?
No, I don’t I live in Cambodia in South East Asia
東南アジアのカンボジアよ
Okay, that’s perfect
じゃあ完璧だ
Because today I’ve been asking Cambly tutors about
ていうのも今日はキャンブリーの先生たちに
Situation with COVIC in your country and where you live
住んでいる国のコロナの状況を聞きたくてね
What’s the life like in Cambodia at the moment?
カンボジアの生活は今どんな感じ?
Is it normal or still like many?
普通に戻った感じ?
No, we have restrictions
まだ規制があるわ
So we have alcohol ban
アルコールの販売規制があるね
No bar, restaurant, all shop and
バーとかお店は閉まってるし
Supermarket are selling alcohol
スーパーでもお酒は買えない
Ten pm curfew so you need to be home
22時の門限もあるね
Between ten pm and five am
22時から5時は外出禁止
We have a ban on gathering,
集まるのもだめ
So you can’t have any more than, I think fifteen people
15人以上がダメなのかな
In like one area or one building
家とかでね
It sounds pretty similar to Australia
オーストラリアみたいな感じだね
I live in Australia by the way
オーストラリアに住んでるんだけど
Do people get a vaccine in Cambodia or not many?
みんなワクチンは打ってるの?
There is a huge movement right now, so
最近大きな動きがあったね
They are vaccinated The majority of people, I think
大多数がワクチン打ったかな
Coz like even all the expats we got vaccinated twice, we have both of our doses of Sinopharm
外国人の私達も二回打ったからね
Does the government say like,
政府的にはこの接種率に行ったら
“We are gotta be free” or something like that or
自由になりますとかは発表されてる?
You are just not sure yet?
それともまだ未定?
No yeah they are, so actually in Asia, I think the second of being the most vaccinated country,
アジアでは二番目に接種率が高い国だからね
So they are aiming to vaccinate eighty percent That’s the goal
接種率80%が目標の数値ね
Do still people wear mask outside?
みんな外でマスクつけてる?
Yeah
うん
How’s life in the UK though?
イギリスはどんな感じ?
So they just opened everything back up in the UK, so
全て元に戻ったね
Everyone’s really excited and really happy,
みんなそれはすごく幸せに感じてるけど
But they do have restrictions
まだ規制はあるね
You can go out and you can go to the supermarket, you still need to wear
スーパーとかではマスク必須とか
I don’t know actually, I think it about changed
いやそれも変わったのかな?
Before they had to wear their masks
前はそうだったけど
But now I think it’s your choice so
今はその人次第かな
Boris Johnson was like, no it’s freedom day
ボリス・ジョンソン首相はもう自由だと
Everything going back to normal,
全て元に戻りましたって言ったけど
But the NHS so our National Healthcare System strongly advised against it
NHS(国民保健サービス)はかなり反対してるね
They are like still social distance,
ソーシャルディスタンス取るべきだし
Still wear your masks please
マスクをしてくれって言ってるよ
But there is no penalty?
でも罰金とかはないんだ?
No there is no penalty
ないわ
So it’s very like contradicting and
だから凄く対極的なのよね
So you can go to bars and restaurants
バーとかレストランはもう開いてる
But like night clubs,
でもクラブは
They are saying that in the night coz you have to show your vaccine card, you have to be vaccinated twice
ワクチン二回打った証明が必要ね
Do people wear masks though? Or not many people wear a masks anymore?
みんなマスクはしてる?
People are selfish in the UK,
イギリス人は自己中心的よ
I think it’s probably about fifty fifty
五分五分かな
Coz you have like sensible people who care about others,
他人のこと気にかける人もいるけど
But then you have arrogant people who are selfish so
自己中心的な人もいるからね
I think it’s quite mixed
入り混じってるかな
One of my friends, he’s Japanese and lives in Japan
僕の日本に住んでる日本人の友達が
He wants to go overseas for holiday
海外旅行に行きたいんだって
Because some countries welcome that already opened up everything?
もう受け入れてる国もあるでしょ?
And it’s not illegal
別に違法なことでもないし
But he was like he’s kinda hesitating because
でもためらってるんだって
If I go there and if I post something on Instagram,
もし行ってインスタになんか載せた時には
People will look at me like “Why are you doing this at the moment?”
なんで今そんなんしてんのって見られるかなって
Even though it’s not breaking anything
悪い事してるわけじゃないのにね
Do you have this kind of like people’s eyes in your country or in Cambodia?
こういう人の目を気にする的なのはある?
Yeah definitely
あるね
I think it’s much more diverse like with Japan
日本ならさあ
You are very much like it’s all your people together Japan is like very distinctly you have a lot of culture, it’s not very diverse
日本は多民族国家じゃなくてほぼ日本人でしょ?
Whereas like England like we have a lot of religions,
でもイングランドは宗教もたくさんあるし
We have a lot of cultures and people from all over the world who live in England, so it’s
いろんな文化もあるし世界中の人がいるの
Very different I think that like
だから日本とはだいぶ違うよね
Also like different age ranges like
あとは世代にもよると思うけど
It’s much more diverse in England, so there’s no like,
イングランドは多種多様だから
It’s not like society has this one idea of like, how you should act and how you should be
社会的に一つの通念があるわけではなく
It’s actually very diverse and it’s very
多種多様なのよ
Your own is very solo, like this is my belief
私の考え方はこうだと
I can think it,
私はこう考える
You’re wrong
あなたは間違ってると
It’s very much like that
全くもってそんな感じね
That’s why people have like different opinions right?
だからみんな違う意見を持ってるんだよね
Because so many cultures and so many people are there,
いろんな文化や人がいるから
So if you trust in one thing,
もし1つ信じるものがあるなら
Just do it as ling as you are not hurting someone
人を傷つけない限りやっちゃえみたいな
Yeah definitely
そのとおり
Yeah interesting
なるほどね
Cambodia is more like Japanese side I guess?
カンボジアはもう少し日本よりなのかな?
Yes definitely, you can tell it’s Asian
もちろんアジアの国って感じよね
It’s like ninety percent of people are buddist
国民の90%が仏教
And like they were wearing masks before the pandemic, so
コロナ前からマスクしてるし
It’s just a natural part of their culture
それも文化的に普通の事なのよね
When they were growing up if they get sick,
育つ段階で具合が悪いなら
they wear a mask to protect other people It’s automatic
人に移さない為にマスクするって当たり前なのよね
TRUE
そうだね
You go outside, there’s no one person not wearing a mask
マスクつけてない人なんて一人もいないわ
In England I feel it’s very different
でもイングランドは全く違うよね
It was very good to know That’s what I wanted to hear today
聞きたいこと聞けてよかったよ
Well, thank you very much
ありがとうね
Thank you too
こちらこそ
I hope you enjoy the rest of your day
良い一日を
2組目 アメリカ出身、グアテマラ在住の女性にCamblyで聞いてみた!
So today I’m actually asking tutors on Cambly
今日はキャンブリーの先生たちに
About the life with COVIC
コロナとの生活について聞いてるんだけど
How’s the life with COVIC in your country now?
お姉さんの国では今どんな生活?
Well even though I am from the United States, I actually live in Guatemala,
アメリカ出身だけどグアテマラに住んでるの
So Central America that’s where I live
中央アメリカね
Okay let’s start from the life in the US,
じゃあアメリカの生活から言うと?
You talk to your parents and friends right?
家族とか友達と話すでしょ?
What’s the situation like there?
どんな感じ?
The situation with my friends and my family that live in the United States
アメリカに住んでる友達や家族の状況を話すと
It seems like about three months ago ore a little bit over that
三ヶ月前かそれよりも前に
Everything went back to normal
全て普通に戻ったわ
Okat so when I say normal I mean
普通っていうのが何かと言うと
There is no social distancing,
ソーシャルディスタンスはもう無いし
Everything’s open
全てビジネスは開いてるし
It has went back to as you can imagine normal being
普通と言って想像できる限りの普通ね
But since I’m not there, to me I think
でも私的にはアメリカに住んでないから
It’s a false sense of normal and
それは間違った普通だと思うのね
It’s a false sense of everything’s back to normal
すべて元通りに戻ったって間違いだと思うの
I feel like they are really just getting ready to have even bigger lockdown
さらに大きなロックダウンが来るだけだと思う
And they are just they wanna make people feel lsafe
人にもう安心だよって思わせたいだけでしょ
That’s what you have to do for Americans
まあアメリカ人にはそれが必要なんだけどね
You do
マジでよ
There’s no restrictions there right?
もう規制はないわけだ?
There’s not or whatsoever
全くもって
I was hearing from someone a student from Cambly that their friends in the States said
ここの生徒のアメリカ在住の友達いわく
It’s actually in some places against the law to wear a mask
地域によってはマスクを付けるのが違法みたいよ
Which to me it make sound so strange it’s against the law?
私的には違法ってって変な感じだけど
Because I think they are thinking that if people are wearing a mask
でも理由としては
There might be like more crime going on
マスクつけてると犯罪が増えるって
So they don’t want that
それは避けたいらしくてね
I’ve never heard it That’s not happening in Colorado, but
私の地元のコロラド州の話じゃないけど
I’ve heard that in other places
そういう地域もあるみたいよ
So you reckon not many people wear a mask over there?
じゃあアメリカではみんなもうマスクしない?
Nobady does like
誰もしないよ
I was saying ninety percent of the people don’t wear a mask
90%はしないね
I asked my friends if they see anybody wearing a masks
友達にこの質問したら
They were like no,
誰もしないって
Maybe a couple of older people but that’s it
老人ならいるかもだけどそれだけよ
How about Guatemala?
グアテマラは?
In Guatemala you have to,
グアテマラでは必須よ
If you go in public, if you wanna go into any type of store, bank anywhere
お店とか銀行とか入りたいなら
You have to have a mask on or they won’t serve you
マスクなしでは入れてもらえないわ
Okay so you have to wear a mask in Guatemala and that’s the restriction like you have to pay fine or something?
そのマスクの規制に従わないと罰金ある感じ?
It’s not that you have to pay a fine,
罰金とかではなく
You just won’t be let in to any type of public
ただ入れないってことね
Store, business
お店とかビジネスとかね
So that’s what it is and that’s why people do it
だからみんなつけるのよ
The other day I was talking to one of my Japanese friends, he lives in Japan he’s Japanese
僕の日本に住んでる友達がね
He wants to go overseas for holiday
海外旅行に行きたいんだって
And I mean the US welcome people right? Welcome people from other countries
アメリカだって入れるし
People can still go to holiday and
行こうと思えばいけるんだよ
Europe and I think the US are fine
ヨーロッパとかアメリカとか
But then he said he’s kind of like hesitating to do it
でも彼はためらってると
Because Japanese people’s eyes or the perspective
というのも 日本人の目があるでしょ?
People look at him like ” Are you sure you wanna do this?”
本当にそうするつもりって?
“I know it’s not illegal and it’s not breaking anything”
別になんにも反してないけど
“But are you sure you wanna do this?” So
でも本当にあなた?って
He’s hesitating because he doesn’t wanna be looking fool
悪く思われたくないからためらってるんだって
Do you have something like that in the US as well?
アメリカもこういうのある?
No, I think in the US everybody is definitely like ”No, we should be allowed”
アメリカなら別に許されるべきでしょって話ね
“To go wherever we want”
行きたいとこに行けるべきよ
“It should be back to normal”
もう元に戻るべきってなるね
I would say it’s justo more the typical United States
まあなんていうか典型的なアメリカよね
There isn’t entitlement there of, how things should be and it’s
どうすべきかなんていう話なんてないのよ
That’s why I’m actually so really that I am here in Guatemala,
それもあって今グアテマラにいるの
During this pandemic because
このご時世にね
The perspective is a lot different than over there
全く見方がアメリカとは違うからね
Like in the United States it’s very much,
アメリカはとにかく
We don’t have to wear mask
マスクなんてしなくていいわ
That’s against our rights
そんなの権利侵害だわって話だから
Instead of thinking like for my own safety or maybe not even my own but for my fellow neighbor
自分とか周りの人の安全を考える前に
That’s just difference in perspective of the United States and other countries, so
そういう風になるのがアメリカの考え方よ
So they are definitely happy to be going places and be able to do stuff
彼らは自由に暮らせてすごく幸せよ
And that’s fine to eat their own That’s great, but
別に自分の身内に迷惑かけるのも自由だからね
At the same time I mean like I said I’m glad I’m here
まあ私はここにいれて嬉しいなって思うわ
Thank you very much for your cooperation
協力ありがとう
3組目 南アフリカ出身、ベトナム在住の男性にCamblyで聞いてみた!
Hello, how are you?
調子はどう?
Not bad at all How are you?
悪くないけどお兄さんは?
I’m very good
凄く良いよ
You don’t
君
Your accent Where are you from?
そのアクセント出身は?
I live in Australia now
今はオーストラリアに住んでるよ
I can hear that
めっちゃ聞こえるよ笑
Very clearly
凄く明らかだね
You have Australian accent yeah?
オージーアクセントだな?(オージー真似中)
I’ve been here for six years now
もう6年住んでるんだよ
I can’t speak like American,
アメリカ人みたいには話せないし
I can speak like British people a little bit
イギリス人みたいには少し出来るけどね
Because I used to have a lot of friends but
結構ここに友達いたから
I think it’s all mixed up now
まあでも色々混ざってるよ
So today I’m actually asking tutors on Cambly about
今日はキャンブリーの先生たちに
How’s the life in your country or where you live with COVIC,
コロナとの生活について聞いてるんだけど
How’s life in Vietnam? And there still restrictions or is it completely free?
住んでるベトナムではまだ規制はある?自由?
At the moment there are restrictions in trying to curb the spread of the virus
今は感染拡大を防ぐために規制が敷かれてるね
I think I read an article where
記事で読んだけど
One of the areas they are not allowed a whole weel nobody is allowed to leave their house
一週間誰も外出できない地域もあったみたい
They have to make sure that they have provisions at home
食べ物とかも事前に確保しなきゃいけなかったって
How about South Africa? Do you have restrictions there or is it more like free?
出身の南アフリカは規制ある?自由?
South Africa when I do research on them when I speak to family from there
調べたり家族と話した感じでは
They have more freedom but that doesn’t help control the virus
自由はあるけど感染は広がるよねえ
South Africa is democratic country but
南アフリカは民主主義国家だけど
It has a lot of political infighting between the political parties, and
政党同士の争いが多くてね
The president makes the decision and
大統領が決まりを作ったら
Instead of the rest of the country standing with the president,
国民はそれに従うのではなく
That the president has been elected
選挙で選ばれたその人に
Certain political parties fight against him and
他の政党はそれと争おうとするし
Like there’s a controversy as to whether, people should take the vaccine or not
ワクチンすすめるべきか否かとか
There’s a controversy as to whether you actually ahould be wearing a mask
マスクするべきかしないべきかとか
Stupid things where
馬鹿らしいことだよ
Like it makes logical sense
論理的にわかるじゃんって
Just people are not on the same page
みんな足並みが揃ってないんだね
I think in South Africa too many people follow conspiracy theories
陰謀論的なの信じる人が多すぎるんだよ
Do many people wear a mask there?
みんなマスクはしてる?
Let’s say in Vietnam and South Africa
ベトナムと南アフリカの話で
In South Africa there’s a lot of people don’t wear a mask,
南アフリカはしない人多いね
They just don’t care
気にしないんだよ
Then there’s a lot of people that do wear a mask
で付ける人もいるね
I think most people wear masks but like
付けてる方が多数派かな
Vietnam it’s the opposite most people wear masks
ベトナムは反対ほとんどマスクしてるね
There’s like very little that do not wear a mask
しない人はほぼいないね
Because in Vietnam if you get caught by the police not wearing a mask, it’s a hundred dollar fine
してなかったら1万円の罰金だからね
In South Africa you don’t have this kind of rule?
南アフリカにはそのルールはない?
I’m pretty sure they have the rule, but I don’t think police can enforce it
あるんだろうけど警察は行使できないだろうね
There’s rules but people just get away with it like
人はいう事聞かないよ
Like in Vietnam if the police stop here and police say, you are not wearing a mas, you can’t argue with them
ベトナムなら警察に見つかったら言い訳できないよ
LIke they’ve caught you You can’t run away , hey will find you
逃げても見つかるよ
But in South Africa it’s different from here, one police officer stops you,
でも南アフリカで一人の警察に見つかったところで
Bye
さよなら~って
Where’s your proof?
証拠出してみろよってね
So one of my friends who’s Japanese He wants to go overseas for holiday,
僕の日本人の友達が海外旅行に行きたいらしくて
But he is kind of like hesitateing and stopping himself from doing that because
でもためらってるんだって
In Japan it’s Asia, you know, people’s eyes look at you like,
日本もアジアだから人の目を気にするでしょ
Why are you doing this? I know you are not breaking the law or anything, but why are you doing this?
違反じゃないのはわかるけどなんで今って
So he doesn’t wanna get
つまり避けたいのよ
Sorry about my French but
汚い言葉で悪いけど
He doesn’t wanna get s**y from people
他人からブーブー言われたくないって
Do you have this kind of culture in South Africa?
南アフリカにはこういう世間体みたいなのある?
Like not wearing masks too
マスクに関してもそうじゃん
People wear a mask even they are not seeing anyone They are so far away from people on the street
人とめっちゃ遠いのにマスクつけてるじゃん?
Because if they don’t, they’re like a minority, they look like an idiot or selfish
してなかったら少数派で自己中に見えるじゃん?
Do you have this kind of like thoughts in South Africa?
こういう考え方は南アフリカにもある?
Some people think like that and other people It depends
その人によるよね
The issue with masks like here in Vietnam, if I’m out and if I see somebody not wearing a mask,
ベトナムなら外に出てマスクつけてない人みたら
I have a little bit of your feeling towards them coz I’m like
ちょっとその人に対して思うところはあるよね
You could have come into contact with somebody And now you are in contact with me or somebody that I know
僕か僕の知人に移す可能性あるじゃん
And what if you are carrying the virus, you’ll be irresponsive
感染してる可能性もあるわけだから無責任だろって
But
でも
In South Africa?
南アフリカは?
No
違うね
It’s not gonna work like this?
そうはいかない?
People usually don’t have the mentality
そういう考え方は存在しないよ
Some people do
そういう人もいるけど
But people are more like they have their own strong like mind?
みんな個々の考え方が強い感じ?
It depends on their political view
どの政党を信じるかだね
That’s what I wanted to ask you today
これらが今日聞きたかったことね
It’s been a pressure meeting you
話せてよかったよ
Bye, thank you!
ありがとう!
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