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1組目 アイルランド出身の看護師にモテる男性の筋肉と身長聞いてみた
Okie dokie, thank you very much for your help ladies where are you from?
協力ありがとう。出身は?
We are from Ireland, the west of Ireland.
アイルランドの西部よ
What do you do here?
仕事は何してるの?
We are both nurses.
私たちは看護師よ
Oh nurses, that’s why you came here.
それでオーストラリアに来たのね
Lately I’ve seen a few people, I interviewed a few people. She was from the U.S. and she was from England and they came here as a nurse in the pandemic time so you got a, what is it called? Exclusion?
最近何人かインタビューした中で、彼女らアメリカ人とイングランド人だったかな。ロックダウン中にナースとしてここに来てたね。
なんだっけ?エクスクルージョン?
Yeah we got an exemption.
免除ね
Exemption sorry, exemption.
免除ね
But I don’t know why they let us in, because we’re crazy.
でもなんで入国させてくれたんだろう、私たちクレイジーよ
Nah, I think Australia likes Irish people ‘cause you spend a lot of money on the beers and stuff too, hey.
オーストラリア的にはアイルランド人好きなんだと思うよ。ビールとかにたくさんお金使ってくれるからね笑
Yeah, it’s all party.
パーティーばっかよ
Alright party people, do you go to gym?
なるほど、パーティーピーポーはジム行ってる?
Um, depends what you mean by gym.
そのジムの意味によるかな笑
What do you mean? Like the gym gym?
どういうこと?笑
Not the gym gym.
あのジムだよ
I don’t go to the gym but we do like yeah we do our own workouts.
ジムは行かないけど自分たちでやってるわ
Oh nice so you train?
鍛えてるのね?
Yeah, to an extent.
うん、ある程度ね
Alright um, I gotta ask you this question. I go to gym you know, I want to look pretty good um, I want to be popular to girls. What muscle is the most important for men to have to look attractive? From your perspective.
これ聞かせて。僕はジムに行ってて見た目もよくしたい、女の子にもモテたい、男性が魅力的に見えるために一番必要な筋肉はなに?お姉さんたち的には。
I’m going to just put it out there first, it doesn’t have to do with muscles the whole time. But a good back and arms are nice.
まずこれを言っておくけど、ここばっかり鍛える必要はないけどいい背中と腕はいいね
Back and arms. Is it back sexy?
背中と腕ね。背中ってセクシー?
Yeah, absolutely.
うん!
Really?
本当?
It’s very sexy, it’s very attractive
とてもセクシーだし魅力的
Don’t worry about the abs
腹筋とかまずいいから
Abs aren’t a thing, okay.
腹筋て威圧的なのよ
Abs are a bit intimidating? Too much?
腹筋あるのは行きすぎだと?
And you’re just like “Oh my god, no i can’t be with him ‘cause he’s too toned and too fit.”
やばい一緒に居れないって
They look too good
見た目よすぎるから
I’ll be doing deadlift next week a hundred times.
僕来週あたりデッドリフト100回ぐらいやってるよ
As a lady when you train, you know you guys want to obviously well healthy and also look nice, right?
女性的にトレーニングするときは、もちろん健康になりたくてそして見た目のためにしてると思うんだけど
What do you think is the most important to have for women like,i mean the muscle, what part?
女性は何筋が一番大事だと思う?
I think the bums for some reason.
まずお尻よね
Bum and tums
お尻とお腹
Bum and tums and legs.
お尻とお腹と脚
Bums and tums and legs.
お尻とお腹と脚ね
And obviously arms.
あと腕ももちろん
Everyting, hey?
全部だな笑
The whole body.
Do you think it’s important for, you know, men to go to gym or do training when you think about like, when you consider dating with the person?
男性がトレーニングしてるかジム行ってるかって付き合うか決める要因の一つになる?
If it’s something they enjoy, like, i wouldn’t be against if they don’t do it like, whatever they wanna do.
楽しんでるならいいんじゃない?鍛えてなくても別にいいわ、好きにしたらいいと思うわ
If they enjoy that and they like doing it, I wouldn’t just go with someone just because they don’t go to the gym.
もし楽しんでるならね。鍛えてないからNGとかはないね。
Yeah, it’s not something that you’d be like, oh yeah strike off ‘cause they don’t go to the gym or strike off, they go too many times.
だから無理って話じゃないよね。鍛えてないからとか鍛えすぎだからダメとか
Okay, interesting. As long as they’re happy,
彼らがハッピーで健康に気を使ってればそれでいいのね?
They’re active, they’re not just sitting on the sofa.
アクティブな人よ。ソファーにずっと座ってる人じゃなくて、
Right, not eating potato chips and Netflix.
ポテチ食べながら、ネトフリ見てる人じゃなくてね
Cause we don’t do that at all.
だって私たちそんなの絶対しないもん笑
Are you sure? Alright, two more questions.
ホントかなあ?あと二問
As an Irish girls what’s the ideal height for men to have?
アイルランド人女性的に男性の身長はどのくらいが理想かな?
What’s your like minimum?
最低このくらいとか
I mean i’m pretty small so anything taller than me.
私は小さいから私より高ければいいわ
Anything taller than you?
お姉さんより高い人ね、
Yeah
うん
But you want them to be taller than you?
自分より高い人がいいのね?
Yeah, it’s not that hard i’m not exactly tall.
そんなに厳しい条件じゃないでしょ
She’s like five three i’m five six, so i would say six foot for me.
彼女が161センチで私は170だから、私的には183センチは欲しいかな
Just ‘cause I, when I wear heels i’m taller so i’m like.
ていうのもヒール履くと高くなるでしょ、イーってなるから
So if if someone’s shorter than you, is that like deal-breaker or?
じゃあ自分より低い人はない感じ?
Kind of, yeah.
そうね
They either had the same height or taller but not smaller than me.
同じか自分より高い人ね、自分より低い人は…
Okay. So the last question is going to be like this.
最後の質問はこんな感じ
You said sometimes the abs a bit too much and you like the back. But if there are only two men in the world, one has like completely ripped body and six packs and stuff and the other one has a dad bod, which one would you go for?
時に腹筋は行き過ぎで、背筋が好きって言ってたけど。もし世界に男が二人だけで一人はめっちゃバキバキでシックスパックで、もう一人はオヤジ体系ならどっちの人に行く?
Obviously the dad bod.
もちろんオヤジ体系
Oh really
ほんと?
No i’d like a bit of both.
まあどっちも好きだけどね
I’d be between two lines.
私はその真ん中かな
I feel very intimidated especially here.
とりわけラリアではすごく威圧感を感じるのよ
You know it’s interesting to listen, to hear that you don’t say like “Oh definitely six-pack.”
絶対シックスパック!ってならないのは興味深いよ
Not really I feel like,
そうはならないわ
I think when we were younger we were, and then we just got older we’re just like no because we don’t have six abs so i can’t be looking for that in other people that would just be really mean.
若い時はそうだったけど、でも大人になるとそう感じないの。私だってそんな腹筋ないしさ。だからそんな人を求められないって感じるの
I think it’s very super superficial.
しかも表面的なことだしね
Yeah, you get like more pressure from,
プレッシャーになっちゃうのね?
I think if they look really like pristinely gorgeous, then i’m like, oh my god i’m like really bad looking in comparison to them.
もし相手が超ゴージャスだとちょっと私って、比較して自信なくなっちゃうわ。だから普通の人がいい
I want someone like, normal, in between.
間の人よ
Yeah, in between, a good mix.
いい感じに混ざった人ね
But I want a little bit more towards the abs.
でもちょっとだけ腹筋ありがちな人笑
Alright, But don’t worry, I would say don’t worry you guys looking perfect, absolutely amazing.
でもお姉さんたちすごく美人だから心配しないで。すごく綺麗だよ
As to you.
あんたもな
oh thank you very much
それはありがとう
Seee this guys?
みてこの人
I’m very happy. Thank you very much guys, Thank you
嬉しいよ。ありがとうね。
2組目 シドニー出身の女性2人に聞いてみた
Where are you from?
出身は?
uh Sydney, New South Wales.
シドニーよ
Sydney, Australia? And you too?
お姉さんも?
Yes
うん。
What do you do by the way? What do you do for a job?
仕事は何してるの?
Uh i work in retail just in a shopping center.
モールでショップ店員してるわ
Have you been a busy?
忙しい感じ?
Oh yeah very busy ever since Coming out of lockdown
ロックダウンが終わってから超忙しいね
Yeah right, how about you?
お姉さんは?
I’m in communications.
私はコミュニケーションよ
You’re in communications?
コミュニケーション?
What do you mean by saying communications
コミュニケーションってどういう意味?
So like marketing and content, yeah.
マーケティングとかよ
Yeah that’s pretty cool. Um so, well it’s a random question but, do you guys work out?
いいね。これ唐突だけどトレーニングしてる?
Um a little bit not not much. She works out a bit more than i do.
ちょっとだけね。彼女のほうがしてるわ
Do you mean like you go to gym or?
ジム行ってるってこと?
More at home kind of workouts and stuff, yeah.
おうちトレーニングね
Do you go to gym?
ジム行ってる?
Uh, Studio Fitness.
スタジオフィットネス
Right. ‘Cause you know, I’m obviously like I said, i’m from japan and the one thing I was surprised when i came to Australia like if so many people work out.
というのも言った通り僕は日本人でラリアに来た時に驚いたのが、トレーニング人口の多さだよね
So many people running around the city you know, around the beach which is pretty cool. so today I want to ask you uh some questions about fitness and like men’s appearance.
街やビーチを走ってる人も多いし、すごくいいことだよね。だから今日はフィットネスと男性の見た目について聞きたくて
Um, ‘cause you know obviously i go to gym, but sometimes I really hate like legs day because it’s really hard obviously and I don’t want to look like a chicken. But like sometimes my upper body goes big and my legs stay skinny which is not good. What men’s muscle do you think is the most important to have for men’s to look good?
ていうのももちろんさ、僕はジム行ってるけど特に脚とかトレーニングしたくなくて、きついからなんだけど。鶏みたいになりたくないけど、上ばかり大きくなって脚が細いままでよくないからさあ。男性のどの筋肉が一番あったらかっこいいと思う?
I’d probably say their abs and their pecs.
そうね~私的には~腹筋とペクスね
Abs and?
腹筋と?
Pecs, pectoral so chest,
ぺクス胸筋よ
Oh, chest yeah.
胸ね
Chest muscle. Abs and chest, so here?
腹筋と胸筋だからここね
I do that quite often.
僕もよく鍛えてるよ
How about you?
お姉さんは?
I care about also arms, nice arms.
私は腕も好きね、いい腕いいわ
Chest, abs, and arms.
胸と腹筋と腕ですね
Okay. As a lady, you guys, what do you train the most? What do you think is the most important for you to have to look like attractive lady? Like what part of muscle do you think?
お姉さんたちは女性としてどこを一番鍛えてる?魅力的な女性に見えるためには何筋が一番重要?どこの筋肉を一番鍛えてる?
I think probably the most popular is like your glutes,
一番ポピュラーなのがお尻ね
And maybe like yeah bum and stomach.
それにお腹かな
Stomach and back are big for me.
お腹と背中は私的に重要ね
Stomach and back, back as well?
背筋も?
Yeah
うん
Do you think a lot of girls here train backs?
結構女性で背筋鍛える人多い?
um yeah, I think so.
多いと思うよ
Many do legs actually, legs and bums.
実際脚とお尻鍛えてる人多いよね
Definitely.
間違いないね
Yes, I always see them like, “wow these ladies are very strong.” I can’t do that you know.
いつも見てすごいなって思うよ。僕はできないからね
do you think it’s going to be like important factor when you consider like choosing someone like like consider dating someone if the person is trained or not? Do you think it’s a big factor?
パートナーを決めるにあたって大事になる?その相手がトレーニングしてるかどうかってこれって大事なことかな?
Um,no not really. I think someone that looks after themselves and that’s healthy I think is a factor but they don’t necessarily have to go to the gym, you know.
うーんそうでもないね。自分の管理ができてて健康なら、それはいい要素だけど。必ずしもジムに行く必要はないかな
At least they can take care of themselves
最悪自己管理ができてればいいのね?
yeah
I agree and because when someone is very um, all about training,
そうそう私も同感ね
Yeah, it’s bit too much sometimes.
トレーニングが好きすぎる人って
It takes up their social life.
人との関わりも減るしさ
I get a lot of comments from Japanese guys saying like, height is the important in this country like in a western country. What’s your like ideal height for men to have?
日本人男性からのコメント結構もらうんだよね。この国では身長はどれぐらいがモテるのかって。西洋の国では。お姉さんたちが求める男性の理想の身長は?
Um, I don’t know i’ve never really had height, height’s never really been a thing for me.
特に気にしたことないからわかんないなあ、大事じゃないかな
Well you don’t really mind?
特に問題じゃない?
Well, I don’t really care for height, I mean my boyfriend’s very tall he’s six four or something.
私の彼氏はすごく背が高くて195センチとかなんだけど
Very tall huh
すごい高いねえ
Yeah but a lot of I think girls tend to like the taller guys but for me I don’t really it’s not a big you know preference for me.
でも多くの女の子は高身長のほうが好きかもね。私的には大した問題じゃないわ
How about you?
お姉さんは?
Yeah, it’s the same for me I don’t really mind heights so-
同じかな特に身長は気にならない
Even if he’s very small? Short?
めっちゃ低くてもいいのね?
Oh maybe not too small, yeah.
小さすぎるのはあれかもだけど…
So what’s the minimum?
一番低くて?
Minimum, Oh . Geez, I think anything taller than you.
自分より高ければいいんじゃん?
Anything taller than me?
僕より高ければ?
No, as in, like your height.
自分よりって意味よ
Because I’m a taller girl, so
私なんか結構高いからね
You’re pretty tall, yeah.
お姉さん高いねえ
So how tall are you?
身長いくつ?
I’m um, 5’7”
173センチよ
Yeah, so quite a lot of guys that are my height.
だから… 男性でもこの身長の人多いからね
Right, so that’s fine. I don’t mind.
だから問題ないかなって気にしないわ
Alright, last question. Honestly, would you prefer a man with a completely like, six-pack and like a ripped body or you go for a dad bod? Which one would you choose if there are
最後の質問。正直なところ完全にシックスパックでバキバキマッチョな男性がいい?それともオヤジ体形?どっちを選ぶ?世界にその二人だけなら。
Um, definitely the six-pack.
うーん絶対しシックスパックね
Yeah, I hate to say it but, I feel like I might go to the dad bod.
そう言いたくはないけどそうね。私はオヤジ体形かも
Oh yeah? What’s the reason?
その心は?
Because if he’s the only choice, at least we’ll have fun, he’s not always at the gym.
もし彼らしかいなければ、ジム狂いより楽しいほうがいいじゃん
Alright, that was interesting, thank you very much for your help.
なるほど聞けてよかったよ。協力ありがとう
3組目 フランス出身の女性に聞いてみた
Where are you from?
出身は?
From France.
フランス
Yeah, Paris.
パリよ
I like the football team Paris Saint-Germain.
あのサッカーチーム好き。パリサンジェルマン
Have you been to their stadium before?
見に行ったことある?
No, yeah, once.
一回あるけど別にサッカーファンじゃないの
But I’m not a big fan of soccer so I just watch it on TV and that’s it.
だからテレビで見るだけ
You know it’s so funny that you know, when I talk to European people, “I’m from Spain”, “I’m from France”, “I’m from Italy”, I always say I love football I want to go to you know , Italian Games Celia or French League 1 and-
ヨーロッパの人と話すときさあ。スペイン、フランス、イタリアから来たっていうから、サッカー好きって伝えて、セリエA見に行きたいとか。フランスのリーグアンとか
And everyone’s like, “Oh , I’m not really a big fan of football”. Everyone’s like that.
でもみんなサッカー好きじゃないとかいうのよ。みんなそんな感じなんだよ
That’s true, because like, there are football, soccer everywhere-
だっていろんなところにサッカーチームあるじゃん。
Every country, like Paris, Marseille, everywhere. So we are like, we don’t know which team we have to choose, you know, we have too many teams.
各国チームあるし。パリもそうだしマルセイユとかの街もそうだし、どれがどれだかわかんないもん
Yeah, exactly. What do you do in Australia? Do you work here, or?
オーストラリアでは何してるの?仕事してる?
Yeah, I’m a restaurant manager.
レストランのマネージャーよ
Restaurant manager. What sort of restaurant?
何系のレストラン?
Lebanese, yeah.
レバニースよ
I thought you were going to say French.
フレンチって言うと思ったよ
No, no, no that’s alright.
別にいいの
I came here for something.
変化を求めてきたから
Exactly. Everything doesn’t have to be French.
なんでもフランス系になう必要ないね
Because you obviously look pretty fit. Do you go to the gym by any chance?
お姉さんすごくスタイルいいけどもしかしてジム行ってる?
Yeah I do.
行ってるよ
I used to go to France but it’s not the gym. I used to Do gymnastics, like the real gymnastics one-
フランスでは体操をしてたの。リアルなやつよ
Oh yeah, like backflips and stuff?
バク転とかするやつ?
Exactly but stopped because I had some injury on my ankle.
でも足首を痛めてやめたの
So I came back here and I said, “Okay, let’s go try to be fit again”
それからラリアに来てまたスタイル戻そうと思ってね
So on my PT, I’m doing exercise in the gym
今はトレーナーをつけてジムで鍛えてるわ
Okay, I see. As a French girl,
フランス人女性としてお姉さんジムに行くときは
When you go to gym, what do you train the most, like what do
どこを一番鍛えてる?
you think you should have the most? I mean I’m talking about muscle as a lady to look attractive.
どこの筋肉があると女性として魅力的だと思う?
Yeah I think you have to be fit like, all the body you don’t have to be fixed in one part like, I mean not just the bum or whatever.I have to work on everything.To look good.
全体よね。どこの筋肉がって言うよりもお尻だけ鍛えるとかじゃなくて、よく見えるには全部鍛えないとダメ。
Because after like, you’re gonna be very fit on the top but not on the, on the bottom so you have to choose.
だってそうしないと、上半身ばかりよくて下半身が疎かになるからね。
You see many men like that you know, like, they train upper body and they don’t do much.
そういう男たくさんいるじゃん。上半身ばっか鍛えて足スキップして。
And after the leg is like, so skinny, so thin I’m like, “No man, try to work on everything.”, you know?
脚めっちゃ細くてね。ちゃんと全部鍛えなって思うわ。
You know what we call them?
なんて呼んでるかわかる?
What?
何?
Chicken.
チキン
Exactly that’s-
その通りだ笑
Exactly they work like that, yeah.
こんなして歩いてね
So how about men? Like, when you see men like, go to gym.
男性に関してはどうかな。ジムに通う男性に関しては
The back.
背筋ね
Back is sexy?
背筋はセクシーだと?
Yeah
Back is sexy guys. You need to train your backs.
背筋はセクシーみたいだから鍛えないとね
And a bit of bum, too.
あとお尻も少しね
And a bit of bum?
あとお尻も?
Oh, for men too?
男も?
Yeah, of course.
もちろん!
Do you think it’s gonna be an important factor for men to go to gym or like, go to training when you consider, you know, dating with someone, or?
相手が鍛えてるかどうかって付き合うかどうかの大事な判断要素の一つになるかなあ?
No
そんなことないね
No, it doesn’t matter.
完全にどっちでもいいわ
It doesn’t matter, no no no really, no. Like, I’m, I’m someone who, I prefer to see what is inside than-
私は中身のほうを見るからね
Because, I, I know, I know, so I have one friend, he go to the to the gym and he loves it-
こういう友達がいてね。ジムに通うのが大好きなの
And then he’s just gym gym gym and nothing else.
でもジムばっかりで他何にもないのよ
So he’s not interesting.
それじゃあつまんないじゃんって
Right, so, so how would you answer this? If there are only two men in the world, one is like, completely ripped and you know, has six-pack and-
じゃあこれにはどうこたえる?もし世界に二人だけ男がいたとして、一人はめっちゃバキバキでシックスパック、
And the other one-
もう一人の方は
He has a dad bod like, relax-
オヤジ体型リラックスした感じの
Yeah, yeah but how is his mind? If he’s relaxed-
中身はどうなのよ?
Same person, but like, like relaxing.
中身は同じだよ
Oh, so you like a more dad bod?
オヤジ体型を好むってことね?
Yeah, no, it’s complicated.
ちょっと難しいね
But you need to choose one.
選ぶとしたらだよ
Yeah, it depends.
いろんな要素によるけど
On everything but yeah, I like, like someone fit but you don’t have to be extremely fit like a six-pack, everything’s perfect, I don’t like perfection.
マッチョも好きだけどそこまでいかなくていいかな。シックスパックみたいに完璧じゃなくても。完璧ってのも嫌だし
So even the person who has a dad bod but as long as this person has a nice personality and stuff-
てことはオヤジ体型だとしても、性格がよければ
Is gonna be all good?
問題ないってことね?
Yeah, yeah. Personality is the most important.
性格が一番大事だからね
That is true.
その通りだね
Yeah, merci de votre for your time.
時間くれて有難う
Arigato gozaimasu.
有難うございます
How do you pronounce “merci beaucoup”, because mine’s pretty much has a Japanese accent.
メルシーボークーってどう発音するの?多分僕の日本人の発音だから
Merci beaucoup
メルシーブークー(ありがとうございます)
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